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Even when Self Driving cars are here, they need to be legal

2020-05-19

Written due to someTweets and thought I'd write this down for my future reference and to explain in a little more detail my point of view.

I'm all for self driving cars, but I think the laws/policies/etc. will be a hindrance when ready. As well as jobs, union movements and job protection will also be a concern.

Quoting some sections solely from the Parliament of Victoria research paper 'Autonomous vehicles' published December 2017 (direct PDF download).

Issues

Public acceptance of self driving technology

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Chart 5. Willingness to use automated vehicle technology

So we can see a huge amount of people who are not willing to use self driving cars, which you'd expect translates into not having them on the road. The high acceptance is the 18-24 year old age bracket, who really aren't the ones that influence policy.

I'd predict we'd have a huge vocal minority pushing conspiracy theories like we currently have with the 5G rollout.

Job losses

You can sure as hell bet that there will be a massive push against self driving vehicles from employment groups that will suffer job losses (ride share, taxi, trucks, couriers, etc.). These groups, associations, unions and whatnot have strong lobbying powers.

Though I would not expect this to stop the roll out in the long term, like with factory automation and whatnot, it will in the short term in delaying laws getting passed to allow self driving cars.

New jobs seem unlikely in Australia due to roll out of self driving cars, with the report noting "..new roles in supplying, maintaining and operating automated vehicles, or other roles that use automated vehicles as a platform to deliver new kinds of services to the market". So - mechanics still have work (albeit less due to increase in EV) and some unknown industry due to self driving -- not great for people currently employed to drive.

Product liability and insurance in Australia

Many areas to work through to get self driving cars legal:

Acts and regulations impacted in Victoria alone

In Victoria, there are 7 pieces directly impacted by self driving vehicles. Let alone likely other legal and criminal codes.

Summary

I'd love a self driving car. It will be safer. It will be more convenient.

But our society isn't currently geared towards self driving cars, so a lot of policy and legal issues will need to be resolved, which will be countered by people who oppose self driving cars.

I see the technology being here before we are close to being ready legally.

Comments (1)

Owen McCrink March 27, 2025
Another relevant note from The Sizzle (www.thesizzle.com.au) today (nearly 5 years after I wrote this)

Australian road rules aren’t ready for self-driving cars, which are probably a lot safer than human drivers already

The least surprising thing you’ll read this year is that Australia’s road rules are not written for self-driving vehicles yet, researchers say (The Canberra Times - https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/8926109/aussie-road-rules-are-not-ready-for-self-driving-cars/). At the moment, our state laws typically regulate a human driver, leaving problems for when there is, er, no human driving. Our federal road authority, the National Transport Commission, is mulling over laws to allow full self-driving but hasn’t come up with the goods yet.

I enjoyed this newsletter on US self-driving taxi provider Waymo’s safety record which made the very blunt point that these vehicles — in the limited situations they’re deployed in — are better than humans at driving (Understanding AI - https://www.understandingai.org/p/human-drivers-keep-crashing-into). This doesn’t surprise me, even with all the qualifications, and it does make me want to see these vehicles rolled out in more places, even in limited circumstances. But here’s my prediction: people are still going to struggle to accept that self-driving is safer because, emotionally, humans feel better about being in control even if it’s much riskier to them and others.

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